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do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
2009.Jul.27, 05:43 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #41
This feels like november '07 all over again Smile

Just put it back like it was originally, leave, mug or hosp, all uses the same code, the stronger wins, period.

And this time, do add the limit of 5 hits per player on a single player and then you can't hit that same player 24 hours.

I know what you'll answer Zen but this time will be different, frag the little whiners, the majority of the community will side to this. The 3 players that used to "abuse" the hosp option are no longer playing.

5 attack max (of any kind) and like you first coded to help player X in '07, do decrease the minutes received for a loss starting at the 3rd hit.

It does piss me off to lose trying to hosp a player that doesnt even hit me when I choose "leave" but its even worse to know that not even because I'm trying to be a bully but simply to earn good money in game...

Basically, outside of SV, there is 2 -active- players I can't beat in this game with a leave but with the return of the hosp help the whiners code, theres like 30 of them i can't touch and of those 30, at least 25 usually do 500 or less damage to me in a leave.

And it's not just me, I'm sure RJ, Howl, Rafal, Weebay, Hannibal and others are in the same situation as we are all close in strength.

And like Rafal stated, if I can't touch any players above 40 (or any1 in the top 50 for acc/str or dex), who do you think will receive all the hits when at war?
2009.Jul.27, 06:08 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #42
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2009.Jul.27, 07:04 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #43
(2009.Jul.27 05:43 PM)Thor Wrote:  This feels like november '07 all over again Smile

Just put it back like it was originally, leave, mug or hosp, all uses the same code, the stronger wins, period.

And this time, do add the limit of 5 hits per player on a single player and then you can't hit that same player 24 hours.

I know what you'll answer Zen but this time will be different, frag the little whiners, the majority of the community will side to this. The 3 players that used to "abuse" the hosp option are no longer playing.

5 attack max (of any kind) and like you first coded to help player X in '07, do decrease the minutes received for a loss starting at the 3rd hit.

It does piss me off to lose trying to hosp a player that doesnt even hit me when I choose "leave" but its even worse to know that not even because I'm trying to be a bully but simply to earn good money in game...

Basically, outside of SV, there is 2 -active- players I can't beat in this game with a leave but with the return of the hosp help the whiners code, theres like 30 of them i can't touch and of those 30, at least 25 usually do 500 or less damage to me in a leave.

And it's not just me, I'm sure RJ, Howl, Rafal, Weebay, Hannibal and others are in the same situation as we are all close in strength.

And like Rafal stated, if I can't touch any players above 40 (or any1 in the top 50 for acc/str or dex), who do you think will receive all the hits when at war?


i would be for this. IF you make one change (in CAPS).

"And this time, do add the limit of 5 ONLINE HOSPS per player on a single player and then you can't hit that same player 24 hours."
This post was last modified: 2009.Jul.27 07:06 PM by Conrad1103.

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2009.Jul.27, 07:17 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #44
So when that player you hit 5 times in 15 minutes stims out each time and starts smacking all your friends... what's the solution then? You can't attack him.

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2009.Jul.27, 07:19 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #45
(2009.Jul.27 07:04 PM)Conrad1103 Wrote:  i would be for this. IF you make one change (in CAPS).

"And this time, do add the limit of 5 ONLINE HOSPS per player on a single player and then you can't hit that same player 24 hours."

And this time, do add the limit of 5 ONLINE HOSPS per player on a single player and then you can't hit that same player for another 24 hours.
2009.Jul.27, 07:21 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #46
(2009.Jul.20 11:07 PM)zenith Wrote:  Wow, didn't think it would be such a huge issue. It currently only affects players attacking someone who does less than 5% of your max HP in damage to you. If the fight is close, you can get up to 2.5X normal XP.

If it's unwanted, it can be removed. 5% is pretty low.

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2009.Jul.27, 07:22 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #47
(2009.Jul.27 07:17 PM)zenith Wrote:  So when that player you hit 5 times in 15 minutes stims out each time and starts smacking all your friends... what's the solution then? You can't attack him.

Exactly, we have gangs and its for a reason. Play as a whole or play solo.

When's the last time a player has been hit 5 times in a short period, stimmed then hosp the whole gang of the other guy as revenge? And still, he cant hit them more than 5 times each. Doing so will either take him a few hours of energy refresh or a ton of credits. Revenge do come with a price, always.
(2009.Jul.27 07:21 PM)superdude Wrote:  
(2009.Jul.20 11:07 PM)zenith Wrote:  Wow, didn't think it would be such a huge issue. It currently only affects players attacking someone who does less than 5% of your max HP in damage to you. If the fight is close, you can get up to 2.5X normal XP.

If it's unwanted, it can be removed. 5% is pretty low.

Aren't we talking about the hosp code? Not the xp code here, I thought this matter was settled before I left for camping last week?
2009.Jul.27, 07:25 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #48
(2009.Jul.27 07:22 PM)Thor Wrote:  Exactly, we have gangs and its for a reason. Play as a whole or play solo.

When's the last time a player has been hit 5 times in a short period, stimmed then hosp the whole gang of the other guy as revenge? And still, he cant hit them more than 5 times each. Doing so will either take him a few hours of energy refresh or a ton of credits. Revenge do come with a price, always.

I seem to remember Raf taking out a bunch of people and some high levels couldn't fight back. It's not that simple of a solution. The issue with that has since been fixed, but making a hard cap of 5 hits per 24 hours will lead to other issues.

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2009.Jul.27, 07:26 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #49
(2009.Jul.27 07:25 PM)zenith Wrote:  but making a hard cap of 5 hits per 24 hours will lead to other issues.
I bet if I make a search with that exact same sentence, I'll come up with with an old thread talking of the same issues, with this exact same answer of yours Smile

Plus theres always the leave and mug option left.
2009.Jul.27, 07:34 PM
RE: do you think that AL people really need so much protection?
Post: #50
I was just bringing up the fact that Zen said that something she recoded could be removed. Maybe she will do away with this as well.

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