To Err - Stepping over the Line
2008.Aug.15, 10:12 AM
 
Post: #41
I dunno. Ask them. I just responded to them.

And..Seriously..Edit your post to 'Fluffy Kittens' in light blue..She must not think of such ghastly things..
2008.Aug.15, 10:32 AM
 
Post: #42
Your missing the point.Zen makes a living from this game.In order to do that and continue to plow hundreds into the maintainance of the site she needs new players to come into the game.

If every new player that joins the game (i.e potential donators),gets hospitalized by a player with a grudge over something it is not in either her interest or the community.

One player with a chip on his shoulder taking out every new player to sign up will not make the game bigger or better.It was a challenge to the admins of which they needed to take whatever action was needed and perhaps even mail the new player to say,this dont normally happen its just some guy is having a bad day.

Whats next? Wook,Loki myself pun we all donate hard and play hard.So should we all hosp every new player that joins up and "Blackmail" the admins into changing codes or whatever so that as long as our pantheon slot shows we have better battle stats than another player we will always win regardless?

No.The actions of wook were childish.Unfortunately it has become an all to familiar thing of late.Hosp the new players to "Get at" the admins.Its tantermount to a challenge of which zen decided to use her abilities as game creater to stim the guys out.That her choice and she is looking after her business interests.I will say this though.I wouldnt carry on doing it for too long because Blackmail and threats will only have one outcome and it wont be the player that wins.

I hope it all calms down and that there is another way to settle problems before the game creator uses her powers alot harsher.
2008.Aug.15, 10:36 AM
 
Post: #43
LikeWhoa Wrote:how do u kno she didnt send stims?

This is simple. They were in the hospital in Away status and all of a sudden they were out in Near Death... still away. So, she went in an used powers that are unavailable to any of us.

Is she just sent stims, we would not be having this exact conversation. It's the fact that she used her Admin powers to just take them out of the hosp.

Again, we are not talking about the random code that caused Weebay to win. We are talking about the Admins crossing the line from being an Admin and letting the game that they created play on or intervene because someone decided to use their ability - which is not against any rule.

That is the whole problem people - why should she be able to pick and choose who she uses God-like powers on? That is not fair to ANY of us. I am most concerned when they intervene when there is not enough justification - if they want to get involved because a player is breaking the rules, creating distasteful user names, then I have no problem.

Zen and Err created some monsters in this game... People who were willing to drop a lot of cash for endurance and houses and can smash all players. That is the game and code they created here and we all play by it.

If all of you argue that what w00k did was outside Spirit of the Game - well I 'hired' him to hosp them. It's all good then, right? Again, paying people to hit isn't against the Spirit of the Game, it's just the nature of the beast in these games. The people who spend the most time become untouchable - if you don't want that to happen as game creator, than you should have put that into the equation while creating the game.

It is how it is because this is the game that we play. The admins need to let things play out.
2008.Aug.15, 10:39 AM
 
Post: #44
Use his ability - (EDIT) On people who can't fight back/have nothing to their name.

A level 2 against a level 46. Come on, bud. The most they got is enough for 1 stim, if they know what a stim is.

Logic; use your power on someone that matters to you. w00k could throw his wad into an SV hideout, or kept hitting us up. He didn't have to turn and blow away someone that can't do much more than look up at him.
2008.Aug.15, 10:45 AM
 
Post: #45
Your fighting a losing argument teamhood.End of the day it was a petulant thing he did.He tried to Blackmail the admins into submission to his way of thinking.Its not the first time a high level players has done this.They are treading on thin ice though if they think that attacking brand new players online will gain favor with the admins.It will most certainly cause hostility and like i said before could end in some seriously severe penalties to those doing it.

In short cut it out.
2008.Aug.15, 10:46 AM
 
Post: #46
Where'd this talk of blackmail come from..?
2008.Aug.15, 10:47 AM
 
Post: #47
biffbaffboff Wrote:Your missing the point.Zen makes a living from this game.In order to do that and continue to plow hundreds into the maintainance of the site she needs new players to come into the game.

If every new player that joins the game (i.e potential donators),gets hospitalized by a player with a grudge over something it is not in either her interest or the community.

One player with a chip on his shoulder taking out every new player to sign up will not make the game bigger or better.It was a challenge to the admins of which they needed to take whatever action was needed and perhaps even mail the new player to say,this dont normally happen its just some guy is having a bad day.

Whats next? Wook,Loki myself pun we all donate hard and play hard.So should we all hosp every new player that joins up and "Blackmail" the admins into changing codes or whatever so that as long as our pantheon slot shows we have better battle stats than another player we will always win regardless?

No.The actions of wook were childish.Unfortunately it has become an all to familiar thing of late.Hosp the new players to "Get at" the admins.Its tantermount to a challenge of which zen decided to use her abilities as game creater to stim the guys out.That her choice and she is looking after her business interests.I will say this though.I wouldnt carry on doing it for too long because Blackmail and threats will only have one outcome and it wont be the player that wins.

I hope it all calms down and that there is another way to settle problems before the game creator uses her powers alot harsher.

Hold down the fort there Biff. You are touching a lot of things...

1. Do I know why Zen got them out? Yes, because she is concerned about making money - not my f'ing problem and not one rule was broken. All she is doing is showing that money is the most important thing as new players wouldn't want to play the game that the two Admins created if they were always in the Hosp. If that is the case than they need to code something. It is not fair to hold us to some ethical code in a game of criminals.

If they care about money and the impact that it could have on their pocket book - then create code... don't let us have the option to hit those low level players. Don't punish us for technically not doing anything wrong.

2. There is nothing wrong with a player having a chip on their shoulder. Again this is a game of crime and if you put hours and thousands of dollars into a game... well... you get the point.

3. The admins should probably try to help out new players and code should be thought if that is where they are heading. Don't use God powers to their own agenda. Is they want to send stims to noobs, fine send stims...

4. Being able to hospitalize people is what makes this game fun and interesting. You have to be careful what you say and what you do. Without the hospital this game would become stupid and pointless. It is the ability to put people into the hospital which makes it interesting.

5. If the game creator continues to interfere when no rule was broken - then I believe they will start running the risk of loosing people to other games. If they want to start plucking people out of the hospital for no other reason than they didn't appreciate that person - well then they are playing favorites.

The creators step in too often in this game. People just need to play the game and allow them to code and not deal with the drama. When I play WoW I don't go and complain to Blizzard when some dude romps me. I take it to the chin and move on. Why is that everyone feels the need to complain to the Admin and try to get them to do something?

Yes, I have asked them some questions about loosing fights... I just didn't understand how it was possible, but it is... I didn't ask them to pull me out of the hosp or anything.
2008.Aug.15, 10:48 AM
 
Post: #48
TommiTheTaco Wrote:Use his ability - (EDIT) On people who can't fight back/have nothing to their name.

A level 2 against a level 46. Come on, bud. The most they got is enough for 1 stim, if they know what a stim is.

Logic; use your power on someone that matters to you. w00k could throw his wad into an SV hideout, or kept hitting us up. He didn't have to turn and blow away someone that can't do much more than look up at him.

You are not grasping the point here. The point is that she should not control who we can or cannot put into the hospital. That is the point people...
2008.Aug.15, 10:50 AM
 
Post: #49
teamhood Wrote:The creators step in too often in this game.


Are you serious? What kind of crack are you smoking?
2008.Aug.15, 10:51 AM
 
Post: #50
teamhood Wrote:You are not grasping the point here. The point is that she should not control who we can or cannot put into the hospital. That is the point people...

She never controlled who you did and who you didn't put in the hospital. She did a nice thing and helped a new player to get out of the hospital because someone lost to someone else in randomlands.
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