Endurance
2012.Aug.06, 02:17 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #11
When credits were 250 a piece on the market, housing yielded a better return than endurance. Now that credits are 350ish, housing is a much better investment. Up until the Beach House, at which point endurance is a better investment. The increase in happiness from the Beach House to Arco House only yields about 5-7 more development points per train. (The higher your level and the more endurance you have its going to be higher.)

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2012.Aug.06, 02:31 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #12
(2012.Aug.06 02:17 PM)CrazyFoley Wrote:  When credits were 250 a piece on the market, housing yielded a better return than endurance. Now that credits are 350ish, housing is a much better investment. Up until the Beach House, at which point endurance is a better investment. The increase in happiness from the Beach House to Arco House only yields about 5-7 more development points per train. (The higher your level and the more endurance you have its going to be higher.)

By the math I had done, the additional 100 happiness for 5 mil was indeed worth the investment, and even more so with credits being so expensive.However, unless credits hit 500 per, housing will not be worthwile past the arcology.

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2012.Aug.06, 04:19 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #13
(2012.Aug.06 12:13 PM)emocakes Wrote:  So I saw a thread from a couple of years ago here about endurance vs happiness, which one do you think is more important, or should be?

i.e: ive always gone for endurance, but reading the old thread I maybe should have gone for extra housing...

PM me if you want a formula for it, basically though to equal a 100 happiness boost you need 3700 points in endurance.
2012.Aug.06, 04:25 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #14
(2012.Aug.06 12:46 PM)filthymick Wrote:  
(2012.Aug.06 04:13 AM)Mock8800 Wrote:  every level at 850 happiness gives you 2 points per level.

false. read my above post #2 i think. ur not taking endurace into account

I have the same endurance and happiness as you. I'm three levels higher and I get around 100ish without a trainer.
This post was last modified: 2012.Aug.06 04:27 PM by Mock8800.

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2012.Aug.06, 06:54 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #15
(2012.Aug.06 02:31 PM)InPaceRequiscat Wrote:  
(2012.Aug.06 02:17 PM)CrazyFoley Wrote:  When credits were 250 a piece on the market, housing yielded a better return than endurance. Now that credits are 350ish, housing is a much better investment. Up until the Beach House, at which point endurance is a better investment. The increase in happiness from the Beach House to Arco House only yields about 5-7 more development points per train. (The higher your level and the more endurance you have its going to be higher.)

By the math I had done, the additional 100 happiness for 5 mil was indeed worth the investment, and even more so with credits being so expensive.However, unless credits hit 500 per, housing will not be worthwile past the arcology.

I'm speaking from personal experience not math. And you can get more than 5 dev points per train with 5 mil worth of credits.

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2012.Aug.06, 07:25 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #16
(2012.Aug.06 06:54 PM)CrazyFoley Wrote:  
(2012.Aug.06 02:31 PM)InPaceRequiscat Wrote:  
(2012.Aug.06 02:17 PM)CrazyFoley Wrote:  When credits were 250 a piece on the market, housing yielded a better return than endurance. Now that credits are 350ish, housing is a much better investment. Up until the Beach House, at which point endurance is a better investment. The increase in happiness from the Beach House to Arco House only yields about 5-7 more development points per train. (The higher your level and the more endurance you have its going to be higher.)

By the math I had done, the additional 100 happiness for 5 mil was indeed worth the investment, and even more so with credits being so expensive.However, unless credits hit 500 per, housing will not be worthwile past the arcology.

I'm speaking from personal experience not math. And you can get more than 5 dev points per train with 5 mil worth of credits.


I don't understand how what you said had anything to do with what I said. The amount dev points you get from upgrading housing/endurance has to do with the amount of energy you have to work with.

for the sake of even numbers, a person with 40 energy wiill see X gained per train from Y endurance.

But someone with 80 energy will see twice the dev points gained per train from Y endurance, just because they have twice the energy to begin with.

Edit: Housing works a little differentlybecause doing a full train with 60 energy calculates the same as 60 1 energy trains starting with full happiness.

Housing is a diminishing return albeit a liquid asset, whereas endu is set in stone and affects every training equally.
This post was last modified: 2012.Aug.06 07:28 PM by InPaceRequiscat.

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2012.Aug.06, 07:31 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #17
5 million dollars if you buy credits at 350 a piece gives you enough endurance to go from 24-25 endurance. Which is more than 5 dev points per train. At the low end of using a arco house (low 50's level, high-mid endo) you will see about a 5 dev point per train increase. Hence endurance is better than housing if you have 5 mil lying around.

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2012.Aug.07, 01:26 AM
RE: Endurance
Post: #18
that may be true, however its a stale game where very few people donate enough to have 5 mil worth of creds for sale. it took me 6 months to buy 12000 credits, with more than 5 mil on hand the whole time. most people would need to sell their house to get 5 mil and its sure not worth training 100 happiness with 25 end no matter what. theory says yes but reality says no. results not typical and such.


housing wins

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2012.Aug.09, 10:25 PM
RE: Endurance
Post: #19
20 mil home -> 40 mil home. It net me 10% increase in training.
40 mil home -> 80 mil home. It net me another 10% increase in training.

For endurance, every 500 dev pt = 1 extra dev pt increase per full train. @ today's price 350 per credit, 2000 credits cost $700,000.00.
This post was last modified: 2012.Aug.09 10:31 PM by ZeonOne.

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2012.Aug.10, 12:07 AM
RE: Endurance
Post: #20
(2012.Aug.09 10:25 PM)ZeonOne Wrote:  20 mil home -> 40 mil home. It net me 10% increase in training.
40 mil home -> 80 mil home. It net me another 10% increase in training.

For endurance, every 500 dev pt = 1 extra dev pt increase per full train. @ today's price 350 per credit, 2000 credits cost $700,000.00.

basically 4 extra dev points per full train is priced around 700k? i still think putting that towards a house is a more worthwhile endeavor.

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