[thrillhouse]

Personally, I found this one disturbing, but that's just me.

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Date : 8 May 10 @ 8:56:59 pm
Subject : RE:RE:RE:RE:ahh haha hah

oh man its gotta feel good to hit those weak members...love watchign you guys waste ep...mmm makes me wet
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Drink the Kool Aid, and make Pun Wet? ewwwwwww. How can, does he, nevermind, I want no answers on this one.

[RenegadeJEDI]

Maybe Cheetah is logging in as Pun

[bconrad56]

(2010.May.11 03:33 PM)thrillhouse Wrote:  Personally, I found this one disturbing, but that's just me.

Sender : SayMyName [4488] online
Date : 8 May 10 @ 8:56:59 pm
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oh man its gotta feel good to hit those weak members...love watchign you guys waste ep...mmm makes me wet
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Drink the Kool Aid, and make Pun Wet? ewwwwwww. How can, does he, nevermind, I want no answers on this one.

[dnbrocks]

(2010.May.11 03:07 PM)Howse91 Wrote:  Here are two for ya!


klaw [10821] You do realize...
Sent at: May 5, 2010, 6:56:14 am
That we are not friends w/ H4H, right?


klaw [10821] RE:RE:You do realize...
Sent at: May 5, 2010, 7:01:19 am
I am serious. We're all pretty miffed about the way drek went down. We all put a lot of effort into building that fort up, only to have a selct few take it over at the descretion of Phisheva. I, for one, am not too farging pleased with it, as I'm sure you could imagine...

I don't see anything in those mails that constitutes begging. I think that my esteemed colleague was actually trying to point out the obvious flaws in your logic but it has come to my attention that trying to talk to you is like bashing your head against a brick wall.

[ZeonOne]

(2010.May.11 11:25 AM)Howse91 Wrote:  I agree with Bird and Dingus on this one! Holy drek what am I saying. Anyway, it is about percentages. I tried to explain this to G2 on Friday and all he could respond with was single syllable words. Here are the percentages as of Friday. The total minutes were provided to me by G2 he got them from Zen.

First these numbers are impressive! Ok so based on these numbers you gave and me being a geek, this is how I see it!


SV's = 86,356 / 180,000 * 100 = 47.9% [total minutes available over the 5 days! ( 60 min * 24 hrs * 5 days * 25 members = 180,000 total minutes that we could have been hosp'd]

VS's = 62,254 / 158,400 * 100 = 39.3%

You = 29,091 / 50,400 * 100 = 57.7%


So as of Friday they were getting smoked!

So, 4H spend 58% of the time in the hospital while SV/VS has an average of 44% hospital time in the last 5 days.


Average per person Medical/Stim cost for the 3 gangs are

Total Min / Number of Player / Large Stim Min
H4H
(29091/7)/110 = 4756/110 = 38 Large Stim Per Person

SV
(86356/25)/110 = 32 Large Stim Per Person
VS
(62254/22)/110 = 26 Large STim Per Person


However, in reality...

Cost of the War in Stim so far...
H4H = 1.33 mil
SV = 4 mil
VS = 2.86 mil



If those stats are correct, it looks like this hosp war is about even at this point. If VS aren't in this, SV would definitely in a better shape.


Average Time in Hospital = SV has an lower hosp time average per person

Stim Cost in 5 days = H4H has an much lower stim cost @ only 1.33 mil in stim while SV/VS spend close to 7 mil.

[johnsonhalo76]

(2010.May.11 03:39 PM)ZeonOne Wrote:  

(2010.May.11 11:25 AM)Howse91 Wrote:  I agree with Bird and Dingus on this one! Holy drek what am I saying. Anyway, it is about percentages. I tried to explain this to G2 on Friday and all he could respond with was single syllable words. Here are the percentages as of Friday. The total minutes were provided to me by G2 he got them from Zen.

First these numbers are impressive! Ok so based on these numbers you gave and me being a geek, this is how I see it!


SV's = 86,356 / 180,000 * 100 = 47.9% [total minutes available over the 5 days! ( 60 min * 24 hrs * 5 days * 25 members = 180,000 total minutes that we could have been hosp'd]

VS's = 62,254 / 158,400 * 100 = 39.3%

You = 29,091 / 50,400 * 100 = 57.7%


So as of Friday they were getting smoked!

So, 4H spend 58% of the time in the hospital while SV/VS has an average of 44% hospital time in the last 5 days.


Average per person Medical/Stim cost for H4H are

Total Min / Number of Player / Large Stim Min
(29091/7)/110 = 4756/110 = 38 Per Person

SV
(86356/25)/110 = 32 Large Stim Per Person
VS
(62254/22)/110 = 26 Large STim Per Person


However, in reality...

Cost of the War in Stim so far...
H4H = 1.33 mil
SV = 4 mil
VS = 2.86 mil


If those stats are correct, it looks like this hosp war is about even at this point.


Average Time in Hospital = SV has an lower hosp time average per person

Stim Cost in 5 days = H4H has an much lower stim cost @ only 1.33 mil in stim while SV/VS spend close to 7 mil.

you need travel to make a full calculation, i know that for the first one VS had everyone spread out. dunno about now though

[ZeonOne]

VS is the one who will lose out the most.

In their low levels (average at 19), they make on average of about 800k a month on their normal days. During the Hosp war, they will make half of that, which is 400k average a month per person.

I don't think they can afford 26 Large Stim per person in 5 days ratio. That's like 130k in 5 days. Or, 780k in 30 days! If VS don't get reimburse, they will probably spend the whole month in the hospital.



To get the number:
I made about 800k when I was around level 19. If I spend half of the time in Hosp, then I would obviously make half as much.

July 2008 1,038 86 1,350 76.9 % $877,880 $650.28 9,699 22,568
August 2008 1,024 65 1,313 78.0 % $857,418 $653.02 9,166 17,445
September 2008 1,291 73 1,604 80.5 % $1,059,789 $660.72 10,374 18,288

[TommiTheTaco]

We actually haven't spent anything on stims or nimbus over here in VS.

[Howse91]

I like this Zeon well done. It points out another stat for us. They have spent 185k per player on average during this and we have spent 150K per person. Yes the 7 mill is impressive but there 47 of us and 7 of them and they can hit three of us at a time per full refresh where as most of our guys can't scratch them. I personally have to zerk to get em if at all. I have yet to get blackclouds or William (probably never will kuodos fellas) But I have bloodied the noses of the other 5 a few times. I think we are doing quite well. I was asked by G2 if this was worth it for us, I would ask back is it worth it for them. Is the 1.3 million they have spent worth 2 paid hits! We have been told that this will not stop until we agree to not do paid hits against them. I say no if it is allowed in the game one gang it is allowed for all!

[Leopard]

(2010.May.11 03:53 PM)ZeonOne Wrote:  VS is the one who will lose out the most.

In their low levels (average at 19), they make on average of about 800k a month on their normal days. During the Hosp war, they will make half of that, which is 400k average a month per person.

I don't think they can afford 32 Large Stim per person in 5 days ratio. That's like 160k in 5 days. Or, 960k in 30 days! If VS don't get reimburse, they will probably spend the whole month in the hospital.

the lower levels are the ones missing out on trains, skills & career the most

we've all been ranked pretty high in cash earned each day & have all been able to do skills & career & train a decent amount. I've averaged about 3500 dev pts per day when I usually average over 5k. this can continue forever & I won't be unhappy