[shadowinc]

i understand what everybody is saying, i was just letting you all know that bigrod did mail zen and tell her to give it to slim, it could not matter to me one way or the other, a gangs hideout does not make a gang, it is its members that makes the gang, i am sure there is one or two gangs that could lose all their upgrades and still be the toughest two gangs in al, good luck to you all on this argument ,