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RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - Chymere - 2010.Apr.12 05:42 AM
(2010.Apr.12 05:35 AM)bebopcrew420 Wrote: Yeah, but people got stupid with it and posted the worst porn pics they could find. That should have been removed right away, "unmodded section" or not. That wasn't the point of the battleground section and I can't blame zen for shutting it down. Even being unmodded it should have had some rules. It can work, but it's not going to be truly unmodded.
Unless Zen lied to me, the person who posted the child porn is also the person who was involved in the lawsuit.
Pretty neat trick eh? Find kid porn, post kid porn, cry kid porn. Kinda like stir up drek, find drek, cry about drek.
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - Jolabent - 2010.Apr.12 05:50 AM
(2010.Apr.12 05:33 AM)Chymere Wrote:(2010.Apr.12 05:10 AM)Jolabent Wrote: That battleground section was closed for a good reason by Zenith. The content was getting too harsh and someone threatened legal action.
To DevXiro, please direct yourselves to the rules of posting:
http://forums.awakenedlands.com/showthread.php?tid=13
Check your facts before you post. I purged my inbox, so I don't have the original mail, but here's the log.
29.Mar.10 The battleground was closed because I got a real cease and desist letter from a law firm in Chicago. It wasn't made up. I wish it was. But since the person who posted child porn on the site was involved in the lawsuit, the tables turned.
I am sorry, I think we have the same idea, I just didn't post all the details. A lawsuit is a lawsuit no matter how or why it is there.
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - spacebird - 2010.Apr.12 05:53 AM
(2010.Apr.12 05:50 AM)Jolabent Wrote:(2010.Apr.12 05:33 AM)Chymere Wrote:(2010.Apr.12 05:10 AM)Jolabent Wrote: That battleground section was closed for a good reason by Zenith. The content was getting too harsh and someone threatened legal action.
To DevXiro, please direct yourselves to the rules of posting:
http://forums.awakenedlands.com/showthread.php?tid=13
Check your facts before you post. I purged my inbox, so I don't have the original mail, but here's the log.
29.Mar.10 The battleground was closed because I got a real cease and desist letter from a law firm in Chicago. It wasn't made up. I wish it was. But since the person who posted child porn on the site was involved in the lawsuit, the tables turned.
I am sorry, I think we have the same idea, I just didn't post all the details. A lawsuit is a lawsuit no matter how or why it is there.
but $hitty, biased modding has been going on forever. not throwing blame on you, jola, but you've defended your fellow mods in the past w/o having any idea of what has gone on. some of you mods are f ucking pathetic in how and what you decide is mod-worthy...fact.
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - bebopcrew420 - 2010.Apr.12 06:22 AM
(2010.Apr.12 05:42 AM)Chymere Wrote: Unless Zen lied to me, the person who posted the child porn is also the person who was involved in the lawsuit.
Pretty neat trick eh? Find kid porn, post kid porn, cry kid porn. Kinda like stir up drek, find drek, cry about drek.
This is all I know, I never got any personal mail from zen regarding the subject. My point is the battleground section wasn't being used the way it was intended. Fisting pics, while funny and entertaining, didn't really have a place in the game. I must have missed the whole kiddie porn conspiracy.
I just received a letter from a law-firm stating the forums show explicit content that are too easily accessible to minors, and a lawsuit will be the only recourse unless the content is removed and policies are put in place to ensure it doesn't happen again.
So with that stated, I can't see how this battleground section is going to work. I'm certainly not going to get in a lawsuit over things posted by players, regardless of how I feel about it. It's just not worth it to me.
Some of the things in here are so overly offensive to me it's beyond words. But I let it go because it's unmodded. Well, obviously the legal ramifications just aren't worth the effort. Unless this section is utilized in a way that is a little more appropriate for the game, it has to be removed.
And please don't gripe to me about it, I didn't post the content in here. Even though it's a non-public section, it's still apparently too open. My hunch is it's not some random letter from a watchdog group. It seems a little too personal to me. But it is what it is.
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - DejaVu - 2010.Apr.12 06:42 AM
(2010.Apr.12 01:18 AM)DevlinXiro Wrote:(2010.Apr.12 12:02 AM)Chymere Wrote: Yeah. See that Battleground section that's locked? That's cause some couldn't take the heat.
I call for a reopening of the locked battleground. People are smart and responsible enough to keep out if they can't take it.
Do you read the same forums that I do? If the ones responsible for it being closed were EITHER of the things you said, there will still BE a battleground!
(2010.Apr.12 05:53 AM)Troopermccue Wrote:(2010.Apr.12 05:50 AM)Jolabent Wrote: A lawsuit is a lawsuit no matter how or why it is there.but $hitty, biased modding has been going on forever. not throwing blame on you, jola, but you've defended your fellow mods in the past w/o having any idea of what has gone on. some of you mods are f ucking pathetic in how and what you decide is mod-worthy...fact.
Yes, somethings are removed and OK maybe they weren't too offensive to some, but at least the mods are TRYING to keep Zen from having another lawsuit and having no forum at all! They at least Jola TRYS to keep us all to the rules that we all agreed to BEFORE we started posting!
Hats off to you Jola, it can't be an easy job!
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - Chymere - 2010.Apr.12 06:55 AM
(2010.Apr.12 05:50 AM)Jolabent Wrote: I am sorry, I think we have the same idea, I just didn't post all the details. A lawsuit is a lawsuit no matter how or why it is there.
That's like taking roofies on your own, effing yourself with a broom and calling rape on the janitor. Rape is rape, right?
Obviously the broom is the issue here. Let's ban brooms.
@Deja - The lawsuit was fake. Strike that, it was real, but it was submitted by the same person who posted the offensive pictures in order to get the Battleground shut down. No one posted anything criminal except that person. Tasteless, yes. Crass, yes. Illegal, no.
There's no looming lawsuit over AL. Why do you think they had to post child porn themselves to get grounds for a lawsuit? There was plenty of disgusting stuff. But it wasn't enough for a lawsuit.
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - spacebird - 2010.Apr.12 06:58 AM
(2010.Apr.12 06:42 AM)DejaVu Wrote: Yes, somethings are removed and OK maybe they weren't too offensive to some, but at least the mods are TRYING to keep Zen from having another lawsuit and having no forum at all! They at least Jola TRYS to keep us all to the rules that we all agreed to BEFORE we started posting!
Hats off to you Jola, it can't be an easy job!
what i am referring to are things that happened long before the battleground section and has nothing to do with that section or what happened there. i know jola didn't mod the instances that i am specifically referencing...those mods aren't currently active. but she did defend their biased actions at one point.
RE: nice show x/h4h and SVs - Leopard - 2010.Apr.12 11:15 AM
(2010.Apr.12 05:42 AM)Chymere Wrote:(2010.Apr.12 05:35 AM)bebopcrew420 Wrote: Yeah, but people got stupid with it and posted the worst porn pics they could find. That should have been removed right away, "unmodded section" or not. That wasn't the point of the battleground section and I can't blame zen for shutting it down. Even being unmodded it should have had some rules. It can work, but it's not going to be truly unmodded.
Unless Zen lied to me, the person who posted the child porn is also the person who was involved in the lawsuit.
Pretty neat trick eh? Find kid porn, post kid porn, cry kid porn. Kinda like stir up drek, find drek, cry about drek.
who posted kid porn?
RE: Attn Mods - TommiTheTaco - 2010.Apr.12 11:16 AM
Someone who's not here anymore, G2.
RE: Attn Mods - Leopard - 2010.Apr.12 11:48 AM
(2010.Apr.12 11:16 AM)TommiTheTaco Wrote: Someone who's not here anymore, G2.
still don't have a clue
were they fed'd recently